AHL: Start Here In Low Voltage Careers

We share a practical playbook for breaking into low voltage with no experience, from finding real openings and calling companies, to standing out in interviews, succeeding in the first 90 days, and moving from helper to technician. Along the way, we talk BICSI, certifications, safety, and the mindset that wins.

• mapping your drive radius and calling contractors directly
• using LinkedIn, distributors and unions to find hidden jobs
• choosing smart search keywords for entry-level roles
• applying without all requirements and leading with reliability
• learning tools, cable types, drawings and safety basics
• deciding when to get OSHA 10, CPR and early certs
• writing a tight resume and emailing professionally
• what to say on calls and how to follow up
• interview questions that signal career focus
• spotting onboarding red flags and culture gaps
• winning your first 90 days with initiative and notes
• moving from helper to technician through responsibilities
• networking at BICSI and distributor events
• avoiding career-slowing mistakes like speed over quality
• mindset shifts: consistency beats talent, quality before speed

Check my posts for the informal memorial for Phil Cleaningsmith at the BICSI Winter Conference

Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome Back And BICSI Plans
• 1:35 Tribute To Phil And Student Outreach
• 3:00 NEC Acronym And Setup
• 3:35 Main Focus: Breaking Into Low Voltage
• 4:25 Finding Employers And Where To Look
• 7:10 Job Boards, LinkedIn, And Unions
• 9:10 Search Keywords And Applying Smart
• 11:05 Skills Vs. Attitude For New Hires
• 13:10 Learn Tools, Cables, Safety Basics
• 16:15 Are Certifications Worth It Early
• 19:00 Resumes And Professionalism That Land Interviews
• 21:15 What To Say When You Call Companies
• 23:05 Stand Out In Interviews Without Experience
• 25:20 Red Flags And Onboarding Questions
• 27:10 Succeeding In The First 90 Days
• 31:30 Moving From Helper To Technician
• 35:00 Networking That Actually Gets Jobs

Transcript

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Wednesday night, 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Taking me only one thing live after hours with your favorite water monkey, Chuck Bowser's RCDD. Your favorite. Welcome to Let's Gable Lady, your gateway to the world. How are you doing, Jero? Glad to have you here, my friend. Um, lots of stuff to cover tonight. As you know, I took off the last couple weeks of 2025, so I'm starting back up again. I basically saved all of my questions that I got over those two couple weeks. Oh, let me turn on the chat thing so I can see when people chat me. Okay, I'm not sure where it is. Hold on. There it is. Okay, so we've got lots of stuff to cover. Next week. Yeah, next week is uh the Bixie Winter Conference. The Bixie Winter Conference. Oh, wonderful. Wonderful. Here we go. Let's try that. There we go. That's a little bit better. There we go. Next week is the Bixie Winter Conference. I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be there. Lots of stuff happening. Number one, and probably the most important thing, we're doing an informal memorial for Phil Cleaningsmith. So check my posts. You'll see when uh when we're doing it. Um I've reached out to see if we can't do it in a room or something. I don't know if we'll be able to get that done or not, but um, so we're gonna pay tribute to Phil. So if you if you're gonna be at the conference and you know Phil, show up. Show up so that way we can pay tribute. Also, another cool thing they're doing at the Bixie Winter Conference is they're gonna have high school students there on one of the days as an exchange kind of thing. I'm gonna be working part of that. I will certainly be walking around the exhibit hall. Walking around the exhibit, and I'll be sitting in a lot of the committee meetings. So I'll be there floating around. So if you're gonna be there, hey, tell me in a chat box, are you going to be at the Bixie Winter Conference? Are you going to be there? Let me know. Because I'm going to be there. I'd love to hang up with you and meet up with you. So the question is, oh, I forgot to do what are you drinking? What are you drinking? Chuck's just drinking water. Anthony's in the house. Hey G Anthony. I'm just drinking water. And the acronym challenge for this week is the N E C. N E C. Tell me in the chat box. What does that stand for? The N E C. Give you guys a few minutes to type that up. I guess because I took off a couple weeks, it's taking a long time for people to come back. Oh, let's fix this screen there. There we go. There we go. It's a little better. It's a little better. Exactly, Anthony. 10,000 points, Anthony! The National Electrical Code. Happen to have one sitting right here on my desk. NEC. This is the uh 2023 version. We're in the 2026 version right now. So the NEC, National Electrical Code. That's the acronym challenge. So this week's show, I'm really gonna focus in on Nintendo Entertainment Console. This week I really want to focus in on people who are trying to get into the low voltage industry. Because I got a lot of questions about that. A lot of questions. So the first question is from Jake. I wonder if it's Jake from State Farm. Jake, he he asked me, Chuck, I have zero experience. Where do I even start looking? Where do I even start looking? Okay, well, number one, do some research, go to go to Chat GPT, ask them who are the low voltage contractors in the area. Well, first you gotta define how far are you willing to drive for a job, right? So, for example, when I lived in DC, I lived in Maryland, but I actually worked for a low voltage contract in Virginia. So you gotta decide how far you're willing to drive, and then look up all the companies. Okay, look up all the companies in that area. There are national board job boards that you can go to, but the the problem with the national job boards is they're gonna have a lot of people responding to them. It's not unusual for those national job boards to have a hundred people responding, a hundred people responding to one ad. Okay. The best of the best days of our lives is in the house. So yeah, look for you know, you should be able to look in the newspaper for the ads, but look for things like helper, installer one, trainee. Look for those kinds of things. Here's what I would do. I know people chunk I don't call people, I text message. Call the contractors in your area and ask them, hey, do you have a job for an apprenticeship for an apprentice? Old school still works, people. Old school still works, it just does. And another good resource here is go to your local um distribution houses, Gray Bar, Annex, or Wise Components, Advantage in uh the Atlanta area, I think it's Marietta. Um, and ask them, hey, do you know any companies that are hiring? Show up and be curious, and don't don't accept that first no. Keep calling back. I had a mentee one time when I'd asked him, hey, did you apply for any jobs? He goes, Yeah, but they said no. And then a couple months later, I said, if you follow back up, no, follow back up with them. So the next question comes from Maria from Facebook. What job boards actually work? Again, there are the big ones, ZipRecruiter, right? Um, indeed, you will find them on there, but those are really gonna be those job boards are really gonna be good for you know the middle technician, the the lead technician. Um I don't they really don't spend because he a lot realize this, the company has to spend money to put those ads on those job boards. So typically, because of the high turnover rate for helpers and apprentices, they typically don't spend the money for those kinds of positions, right, in the uh in the job boards, because they're they're gonna have to replace that person in six months anyway. So it's not really a good place for apprentices or helpers, but you can certainly use them. Certainly use them. Another good resource I mentioned about using chat GPT to find out who the low voltage companies are in your area. Why not go to LinkedIn? Go to LinkedIn, yes. Not not you don't find too many job postings on LinkedIn, but you can certainly find again those those low voltage companies that you found in your chat GPT search, look them up in LinkedIn, find out who is the uh who is the owner, who's the project manager, create a beautiful LinkedIn profile, which is not hard, and then send them a friend request. Still works. Still works. Um, another good resource for you is um stay job workforce sites and also trade schools. Um they also have stuff as well. And don't let's not forget the union. The union has a apprenticeship programs, what they call earn while you learn. This question number three comes from Tony. What keywords should I be looking for when I do job searches? Okay, you want to look at you want to look for low voltage technician, structured cabling installer. Stay away from technician because if you're just getting into low voltage, you are not a technician, you're an installer, you're a helper. Okay, look for words like data cabling, fiber optic installer, um, cat 5e, cat six, uh, maybe even look for like AV installer, security installer. Those are all great search words, but I guarantee you you will find something in your area to at least apply for. Alexis from Instagram says, should I apply even if I don't meet all the requirements? Yes, yes, even if you don't meet all of the requirements, yes, still apply for the job. If it's a job that you think you will flourish in, but be honest with the company when you do the interview that you don't have, you identify having you know this skill and that skill, make sure you let them know I don't have that skill, but I am a I am a willing to learn. I'm hungry for knowledge. Hungry because at the helper level, at the apprentice level, it's the skills, don't get me wrong, they're important, but it's more important to know that you're gonna show up every day, you're gonna be prepared every day, you're gonna be dressed appropriately every day, you're gonna have a good working attitude every day. That's more important than skills. So if you're if you're lacking on a skill or two, just say, look, I don't have, I've never terminated fiber before, but I can tell you this: I will show up on time, every day. I will be, I will wear my appropriate PPE, I will have, you know, all that stuff because up for the the helper and the apprentice level jobs, that's gonna resonate more with the HR people than oh, I have those skills. I would rather have somebody working for me who is gonna show up every single day on time, not be on the phone all day long, and I have to teach them the skills. I would rather have that person than the person who has the skills who shows up late all the time or doesn't call in sick, doesn't even show up. Just saying. Just saying, okay. Um, so yeah, uh job scripts, read through them. Just remember they're they're they're a wish list. A lot of companies, what they tend to do, as rich is in the house, a lot of companies, what they tend to do is they will they will put every every bunch of skill, every skill known in the job description, and then don't realize they went this is for a helper, right? So it's they're really a wish list, not really commandments. So even though it's listed, they may be willing to negotiate on that. Again, as long as you say, hey, I'm gonna be there, I'm gonna show up on time. I would try to make sure that I would only apply for jobs where you meet maybe about 50% of the skills that they listened. Okay. But again, make sure that you highlight in your in your in your thing that you're again your attitude, your reliability. That is the key thing, especially for especially for the apprentice level or the installer level. Hunger beats perfection every single time. Every single time. Next question comes from Brandon. What skills can I start learning today with no experience? Okay, get on YouTube, start watching videos. You you make you want to make sure that you know um what tools are used and what those tools are called. Junard has a uh has uh social media presence. Um tempo tools has one. Watch the videos and learn. Hey, what is this tool called? Okay, hey, what is this tool called? Okay, hey, what is this tool called? Okay, then watch those videos on how to use them, and that way, you know, so that way when the if you do get hired and they send, hey, can you go give me the snips out of the toolbox? You know what to go get. Okay. Also learn the basic types of cable and their terminology. Lots of great resources out there. I'm obviously one of them. You know, what is cat 5e? What is cat six? What's cat 6a? What are some and there's a get again, safety. Safety. What is the PPE you're gonna need to wear? You know, again, you can watch you watch videos on this. What are the basics for safety? Right? How to learn and read simple drawings and labels, blueprints. What does a legend look like? What does a triangle mean? What does a triangle that's half shaded mean? There's all skill sets you can learn before you even apply for a job in low voltage with no skills, and you can find that information pretty easy. You know, just get just again. I said hunger for knowledge, but you know, a lot of people do. Let me know in the comments if you do this, okay? The cable stretcher doesn't exist. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Um, so a lot what a lot of people don't realize, why'd that go back down again? I don't know what's going on with my phone over here. Um, when some usually, and this let me know if this applies to you. Tell me yes or no in the chat box. A lot of times when people get into new hobbies, like for example, when uh when I first when I got into doing homesteading and stuff like that, I was hungry for knowledge. I watched tons and tons and tons of videos, read tons and tons and tons of articles. Same thing. You if you want a job in low voltage, have that hunger for knowledge. Okay. Question number six, and this comes from Nina. Are certifications worth it before getting hired? Depends on what certification you're talking about. Right. So in the low voltage world, there are certain certifications. There's the installer one, that's the basic level. Installer copper, installer fiber technician. There's the uh CFOT, the certified fiber optic uh uh CFOI, certified certified fiber optic installer, and then there's a lot of computer ones too. The the thing about certifications are they show effort, not mastery, right? Not mastery. And some companies will send you and some people some companies will send you to get those certifications. Absolutely. But we're talking about they're asking about if they should have given them before they get hired, though, Anthony. Um so yeah, they're they're great to get, but they're also expensive. They're also expensive, and as and as Anthony pointed out in the TikTok feed, if you should if you're there and you show up and you're reliable, the company may send you to those classes and get that way you can get them. I don't know if I would necessarily invest them from, especially if you've never done low voltage before, because you don't know yet if this is going to be your career. I know some people, I know some people in our industry who've been in low voltage for 20 years and still don't know if they want to make it their career. Yeah, yeah. Safety training always pays off. You know, um, here's an easy one. Go to your local fire department and get some CPR training. They usually don't charge for that. And then you can put on your resume that you that you have CPR training, you have basic first aid training. That's a skill set that's almost on every job application. Do you have those skill sets? You don't have to be perfect to start something. So certifications at this stage, certification plus the attitude is going to get you the job interview. That's what's going to be really OSHA 10 is a good one to have as well. Um, how much does the OSHA 10 course cost, Anthony? Do you know? Let me know in the chat box. Or if you could, could you look that up on the internet and then tell me in the chat box so I can tell the audience? Question number seven: how important is a resume if I have no experience? Okay, so the resume has a lot of benefits, even if you have no experience in the low volg, right? The resume shows that you have communication skills, that you know how to use a computer, that you have you can spell, you know, grammar, right? It shows character, not just skills. And then you can put in that, because you you may not want to hear this. You will get judged on your email when you send it to the company. What do I mean by that? If you send an email to the company and it's got a lot of spelling mistakes, or you use um um acronyms instead of the full words like uh uh GMTA, great minds think alike, you will get judged on it. Remember, this is professionalism. Professionalism. And and on your resume, even though you might have worked other jobs that weren't low voltage, make sure you highlight jobs that that you needed to be reliable, that you needed to work with a team that were physical in nature. Because, again, at the helper level, they don't really expect you to have the skills yet. They want you to, again, show up, be on time, don't give people attitude, right? And especially at the helper level, don't give them a two-page resume. Keep it to one page. And I I mentioned that you will get judged if you have any spelling errors. Find somebody, number one, use the spell checker in your word processor, and number two, um, have somebody else read your resume. Well, a trick that I used to do a lot of times, I used to write a lot of stuff, is I would write it and then I would wait a day or two and then read it again. That way, because it's not fresh in my mind. You find a lot of mistakes that way. Question number eight: what should I say when calling a company directly? This comes from Miguel. Anthony says OSHA 10 is$59.99 website. Also 360 training in the same place. Nice. So$60 is all it's going to cost you to get an OSHA 10 course, OSHA 10 certification.$60. That's an investment. Because even if you don't go low voltage, that'll help you with any company, any trade-related company, electricians, HVAC, whatever, and the trades is the new thing. The trades are the new thing. Watch out for, man. We're we're taking over. All right, so going back to your question from Miguel, what should I say when calling the company? Number one, speak slowly, speak clearly, speak confidently. Okay. Hi, this is Miguel. I'm calling to see if you have any openings for a helper or an apprentice for your low voltage program. Okay. Um, make again, make sure you tell them you're looking for that level. Express your willingness to if you get through to HR, make sure you let them know. Look, I understand I don't have the skills, but this is a career path I really want to get into. I'm gonna work hard. I will work overtime. Again, ask what is the best way to apply. See, some companies they want you to fill out the job boards, they want you to fill out their their automated system, stuff like that. I get that. So ask them what way do you want me to fill out this application? Be polite, be brief. I'll say that again. Be brief and be professional. Because, see, the HR people, they got a lot of stuff going on. A lot of stuff going on. Anthony, thank you for looking that up for me. I appreciate you. Question number nine: how do I stand out in an interview with no experience? Okay, so there's lots of ways that you can do this. Brian Murray's in the house. Um, there's lots of ways that you can do this. Number one, show curiosity about the work. You know, um, I I I would do your research first. I always recommend do your research when you're doing job interviews, no matter what the job is, whether you're experienced or not experienced. Do your research on the company, find out how long the company's been in business, how many employees they have, what is their uh um, what is their reputation within the industry. And then ask smart questions about how the company is growing. Okay, if I if I start with you today as a helper, is the company growing? Is there room for advancement? If you say that, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, bells are gonna go off in the HR person. This is a person who's thinking about careers, not a job. That's gonna help you, even though you may not have any skills, right? Talk about how you like to learn outside the work. Now, if you've done resource like I told you to make sure you tell the HR person look, I want to be in this industry so bad. I've watched you know the FOA um free classes. I've watched this video on Lou Volgia's I listen to Let's Talk Cabling podcasts and blah blah blah. That shows that you this is something that you're passionate about. Passionate about and then make sure you follow up after the interview. Okay. Question number 10 this comes from Devin what red flag should I watch for with a first employer? Okay. So during that interview process, it's okay to ask them look if I get hired what is the what is what does the onboarding look like? Do you have safety training? What kind of culture is it? Okay. Is how many times how many times do you have to replace this helper position with no explanation? All that all those kinds of questions. Ask the big question. The the HR people love that I'm telling you they love that. And because a lot of times what happens is the HR department loves to give you promises without any structure. Yeah. Question number 11 this comes from Sam once hired let me get this a little bigger so I can read it how once hired how do I succeed in the first 90 days I don't want to travel is there a trade that doesn't you can work in the low voltage industry and not travel. You just make sure that you tell people that the company gets hired absolutely um Sam wants to know once he gets hired how do he know he's how to succeed in the first 90 days okay here if you get hired or during the interview process that's better this is a better time to do this during the interview process ask the HR person ask the HR person what does me being successful in this role look like at the 90 day mark they will tell you by 90 days you should be able to pull cable terminate cable you should be able to run a tester you should be able to to fill out worksheets they will tell you write them down those are goals and then at the end of that 90 days you can go back to your supervisor or the HR person say look you told me to be able to do this in 90 days I can do that. That way you show that you listened and you are performing okay listened and you are performing again I can't say this enough show up on time show up every day oh here's one I haven't mentioned yet listen more than you talk listen more than you talk because if you are talking you can't be listening to the person okay so listen more than you talk and make sure that you I'll give you an I I'll give you an idea of the kind of dedication when I first got hired in the low voltage industry I work for a company called Custom Computer Cable in uh reston Virginia right in rest of Virginia and so on my first day there I got there I wasn't sure what to do because again first day in low voltage so the guys were well they were kind of loading the trucks up and doing stuff like that and they said no we don't need help yet so what I do instead of standing around looking like a bump on a log I grabbed a broom and start sweeping the floor so that way I showed they look hey this guy's sweeping the floor without even being asked that shows you to have initiative right offer to carry tools offer to help other people take notes I'm telling you right now take notes because if the if your supervisor is telling you something and you are writing down what the supervisor is saying that tells the supervisor that what they're saying is important to you important enough to write it down and document it you know I have a list of 147 pro tips on my website pro tip number one is document document document here's a good one being new in the field you're going to make mistakes it's just gonna happen you're going to make mistakes so let me fix this phone yet once again there we go so you're gonna make mistakes everybody makes mistakes brand new in the field if you make a mistake own up to it fast and then say look I'm well hey I I'm sorry I put the wrong label on the cable or I did this or whatever it's okay to make mistakes it's okay to say that you make mistakes as long as you learn from those mistakes that's the key learning from those mistakes okay question number 12 how do I move from a helper to a technician master the basics first learn how to pull the cable learn how to attach the cable to a pull string learn how to tape it correctly so it doesn't get snagged on it those are basic skills that every installer needs to have that even a good technician needs to have learn the basics first and then also if you want to if you want to move to the the technician level ask for responsibility don't ask for the title I want to be a technician just find out what are roles or what responsibilities do technicians have start doing them without being asked again that shows initiative initiative learn the standards learn the best practices I told again the Bixie manuals the it's a manual again if you have 90 bucks 90 bucks buy the Bixie Pocket Field Guides okay lot as a matter of fact I recommend that for apprentices okay I I highly do volunteer for the tough jobs the ones that people don't want to do what'll happen is a lot of people they may not want to work after hours I don't know why this thing keeps collapsing on me. A lot of people don't want to work after hours because of family life stuff like that. If you can it doesn't affect your personal life volunteer for those overtime because again that's going to show that you're a go-getter and also learn this falls into my pro tip number one document document document track what you have learned so that way if your boss says hey um if you picture used to have a OJT book on the job training book where it was looked a lot like the manuals I just showed you and you would check off in that book okay I pulled the cable turned the cable tested the cable I learned how to do this learned how to do that and then you'd have your foreman sign off on that right so track what you learn. It's a shame they don't make that book anywhere because that's such a great book it truly is question number 13 is networking really important in this trade now by networking we're not talking about actual you know computer networks we're talking about networking with people yes absolutely networking is essential more jobs have been filled just by from somebody knowing somebody else than jobs who have I mean let me phrase this the best jobs are filled before they go to the job boards okay uh the Bixie manuals where can I purchase for 90 bucks go to bixie.org bixie.org look up the uh look up the um they're called the ICT installation practices field guides um j jd raiders um or you can call them on their 1800 number I used to know it off my head but I don't know it anymore call them up tell them um Preston's in the house hey Preston um tell them you want to buy the pocket field guides again they're about 90 bucks one is copper what the three books have one is copper one is fiber one is best practices in fact if you're if you know for a fact that you want to get into low voltage and you don't have the skill sets spend the 90 bucks read through those books memorize those books so that way you can talk we we have a whole different language in our industry a whole different language so that way you can communicate with people communicate with people right so so so more like I said more jobs are filled from people knowing people before they even get the job side right if you're the kind of person who who works the tough hours works the weekends and that you're known as being reliable that's gonna get you a job show up to industry events again I mentioned I'm going to the Bixie conference next week I'll be hey Preston are you going to be there? You can be the Bixie conference next week um but they do local meetups as well um also you know go to for example like Greybar and Annixter and all them they have counter days where you can go to there and they have a a vendor will come in go there and just hang out and meet with the network don't be afraid to talk and don't be afraid to help other people without expecting anything back that's the key. Hannah wants to know what mistakes that new techs make that slow their careers okay the biggest mistake that new techs make thinking that uh uh that slow the careers thinking that speed is more important than quality they think that speed is more important than quality that's the exact opposite you want to be slow at first and then do it until you build up those muscle memories okay um I'd rather you get quality first because the speed will come second okay quality will come first gray bar's in the house uh there you go he says gray bar will uh distribution here we'll always try to help you when we can they're also a great resource ed the old tech guy's in the house what's up ed um daryl the RCD's in the house of regular uh all it takes is a couple of calls and I can find that someone that knows you in the industry in the area all it takes is a couple calls and I can find someone in the someone that knows you in the industry in the area oh absolutely absolutely 100% so Hannah also another thing to think about of mistakes is um ignoring documentation ignoring labeling right or here's a big one complaining complaining don't complain you know if you don't understand why why we do certain things and it seems kind of dumb to you just bite the bullet do what you're told when you're told to do it at the best of your ability as quick as you can and still be good at it because once you because you know a lot of people know okay when you terminate jacks you're not supposed to untwist more than a half of an inch okay right more than a half an inch but a lot of people don't know why they don't know why right that will come the why will come later Frankie B says Chuck is a Chuck has a famous name in the Philippa area y'all he's like a legend. It's funny you mentioned that because I was at tractor supply over the weekend and I found you know like one of those little things you put in your desk has your name on it and you go back and look at my social media you'll find it it's a thing that says the man the myth the legend I thought it was kind of funny I thought funny another thing Hannah that slows career path is being glued to your phone you're not being paid to be on your phone you're being paid to pull cable out of the back of the truck put the cable in in that building pull the cable terminate the cable get off the phone get off the phone okay and here's a big one let me know in the chat box if this one resonates with people right that slows people in the careers acting like you know everything already acting like you know everything I've been in the industry for 40 plus years I'm an RCDD I'm a Bixie tech I've done commercial installs residential installs government installs I don't know everything I was just telling somebody today because here's here's a here's a cool announcement for you guys Chuck is going to Costa Rica in a couple months to do a presentation how cool is that I'm going to Costa Rica to do a presentation actually two presentations can't wait to do that and I'm sorry about the thing I don't know what the heck this computer is doing. There we go so hold that there okay now the last question this comes from Robert and he goes what's the one mindset shift that helps beginners to succeed okay remember you are paid to learn at first okay every task matters no matter how small it is I mentioned about about you know my first day in in low voltage that I swept the I took a broom swept up it matters because a clean work site is a safe work site and here's another one take pride in your craftsmanship okay there's a lot of great pictures look up Sean Rep look up uh all green lights look up Preston right there's a lot of great people out doing great work learn what good workmanship looks like and remember this is a career not a job a career not a job the big two big mindset and remember this consistency beats talent I said that earlier it beats talent I would rather have somebody who shows up every single day day in and day out on time without me having to tell them than somebody who knows what they're doing and they only show up two days out of the week so there you go those are my 15 questions for the day uh my closing points here this industry it rewards effort and it rewards attitude right you don't need permission to start learning you don't need a job to start learning if you think this is going to be your career path start learning it now start learning it now okay um somebody's hiring in a low village industry I guarantee it and be the person that they don't want to lose you don't we want what you want to be the person that is not replaceable not replaceable and remember this knowledge knowledge is power knowledge is power so that is today's show it is 10 1033 it is 6 33 let me go back and look at the chats because I forgot to check them lots of chats going on in here uh studio chat why is it not opening that up I don't know why my chat box is not opening so I can't see any of those chats uh uh uh uh there you go so that's our 30 minute communicate communicate communicate that's pro tip number two on my list pro tip number two go look it up go go to let's talk cabling look for my pro tips there's 146 of them and if you read through those and you can think of one more send it to me I'll put it on there all right everybody that is tonight's show uh my wife and I are gonna go grab some a bite to eat had the fire dormant just show up at my house because Chuck caused a fire on the stove tonight so until next time remember knowledge is powerful